“Book tells [insert religion here] men how to beat and control their wives”

“Book tells [insert religion here] men how to beat and control their wives” The original headline says, “Muslim,” but when I read the headline the first time, my first thought was, “That could just as easily say Christian given the literature that’s out there.”

We have a tendency to vilify Islam and behave as if it’s the only religion that truly treats women like crap (or property, or crappy property). It’s not, though, and I wouldn’t be surprised if I were shown a list of Christian books that tells fundamentalist Christian men how to maintain control over their wives, just as there are lists of Christian books telling parents how to discipline abuse their children.

I am not, of course, saying that most Christians read or use these books. What I am saying is that the criticism of Islam often sounds very hypocritical coming from the mouths of certain Christians. Especially given that there are plenty of moderate Muslims that would never use or read such books, just as there are many moderate Christians.

One thing is for sure, there are definitely some major problems.

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5 thoughts on ““Book tells [insert religion here] men how to beat and control their wives”

  1. thesecond says:

    Are you sure? Google doesn’t turn up anything. Could you cite some of these christian books which advocate domestic violence?

    • You should probably learn to read before you comment. Reread my post, then see if your question still makes sense.

      • thesecond says:

        I was presuming when you said “my first thought was, “That could just as easily say Christian given the literature that’s out there.” you meant that you had read some literature by Christians which advocated domestic violence.

        It seems rather stereotyped and bland to just assume that there probaby is literature out there because that’s how you view christians with no evidence. If you viewed christians like that it would be relatively easy to test your view. Go to a christian book store and skim some relationship books.

        • “and I wouldn’t be surprised if I were shown a list of Christian books that tells fundamentalist Christian men how to maintain control over their wives, just as there are lists of Christian books telling parents how to discipline abuse their children.”

          By “just as easily say Christian” I meant that given that there are books that tell fundie Christians how to beat their children, it wouldn’t be surprising if there were fundie Christians books that tell men how to control their wives. It’s not stereotyped and bland. I’m not assuming the books exist, I’m simply suggesting that they could easily exist.

          The post is about pointing out that both of these religions are based on books that are over a thousand years old, written in a time when women were treated as property, had no rights, and were generally always subjugated. As I mentioned in my post, “I am not, of course, saying that most Christians read or use these books.” You’re right, I could go to a Christian book store and look at the relationship section. The problem with that experiment is that I rather doubt most Christian book stores would carry books advocating any sort of abusive relationship because, from what I’ve observed, the people who have those bookstores aren’t the scary fundie types, but more often the Jesus-is-love types (at least where I live). Similarly, I doubt if they would carry the books that advocate beating your children with plumbing line, especially given that children have died in the last ten years from this.

          Rather than being stereotyping, I am saying given that there are numerous Christian books out there advocating the abuse of children (disguised as punishment, but using plumbing line is definitely abuse, and always spanking until you get real tears is questionable), it wouldn’t be surprising to find books advocating husbands having control over their wives, whether via physically abusive relationships or otherwise.

        • This is a good example of what I was trying to get a across.

          It’s a woman talking about how horrible the Pearls’ To Train Up a Child book is. She is clearly not in favor of this book even being, in her own words, a conservative-minded Christian parent. I think that demonstrates quite well that many Christians dislike these books, that they are not representative of all Christians by any means. Even that the book doesn’t, to her, demonstrate Christian values is important. The same differences exist in Muslims.

          I don’t know, of course, how prevalent such non-extreme beliefs are among Muslims. It is true that the bookstore was owned by a man who did agree with the Islamic book in question. I still don’t think it’s fair to point to Islamic books that extoll control, mental and physical, over wives without pointing out that books just as awful are written by Christians as Christian books. I do wish more moderate (or, rather, non-abusive) Muslims would come out and speak up for themselves. But perhaps they are as anti-women as the book seems to suggest.

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